AboveTopSecret.com Equals Government Disinfo
Or so it may appear, according to a new blog entry by Laura Knight-Jadczyk. I must admit that I've paid ATS a few visits, but I always stopped short of registering to post. I'm not sure why... it seems like a popular forum active in many subjects I find interesting, yet I always found the attitude of the moderators a little "off". I can't really put my finger on what it was, but it was enough to dissuade me from joining the forum.
Well, LJK's post really puts that feeling into perspective! Check this:
The very next thing that happened - within hours of writing the above - was that we received an email from Above Top Secret as follows:Well well well..... touched a nerve, perhaps? Seriously, if ATS gets so much traffic that it makes them a "number one site on the internet", why care about what some other website says? Especially if your site claims to have such a pro-free-speech attitude? Are ATS concerned they will lose credibility with their "conspiracy community" if such statements are made? Why would a site that purports to discuss conspiracies even care about "credibility" anyway, considering that the phrase "conspiracy theory" has become such a perjorative term (no thanks to the mainstream media)? Seems like an over-reaction to me. But to continue:
Mark - email@example.com From : USA wrote : I am disgusted by your accusation that AboveTopSecret.com, LLP is a "Government funded damage control outlet" I ask that you retract that lie.
My partners and I have spent the last several years building that site and have NEVER received a nickel from ANY government, never been asked to do ANYTHING for or by ANY government and NEVER WILL.
The fact we attract logical members who present THIER analysis and ask that other members treat them with COURTEOUSNESS and keep the discussion at an ADULT level sans flames and rediculous off topic commentary does NOT make us anything more or less than what we are. The number ONE destination on the internet to FREELY Deny Ignorance.
It is truly SAD that when a site allows ALL sides of an issue to be heard people like YOU who believe hook line and sinker there is a conspiracy where there may or may not be one, feel the need to falsely accuse us of being crooked. It makes me SICK and SAD for you.
You obviously haven't read the THOUSANDS of posts that actually SUPPORT your perspective on our site, no that would be too much work wouldn't it?
Much easier to cast a negative light upon our site in the hopes of getting yourself some attention isn't it?
Thoroughly disappointed in and DISGUSTED with YOU.
Now, what would have happened if he had written to me and said: "Hey, I read your piece and even though we disagree on the subject, I would like to object to being labeled a disinfo source. I set up the site for the same reasons you have your site: to find the truth. I just don't see any evidence of what you are saying... " etc etc...This is the beginning of a very interesting article. After discussion of the recent situation, she then turns to the subject of ATS's mysterious founder - a certain "Simon Gray".
But, since he is not there to argue the evidence, but rather to promote the lies, he can't do that. And people like that only know one way to function: to seek to destroy the other views by ridicule, shaming, playing guilt cards, aggressive insults, etc. Even if they try to mask their behavior by platitudes about being adult and courteous, they belie it by their own words. In other words, they know the words, but not the music. They are blind to their own lack of courtesy to the truth.
Or, they are disinfo...
My money is on the latter.
I leave it to the reader to draw their own conclusion about whether or not AboveTopSecret was setting itself up as a money making venture, or to be a "vacuum cleaner" operation. Of course, the two objectives are not mutually exclusive! One thing is certain, this "Simon Gray" was way too busy and energetic to be the playwright. Whoever it was, it looks like he's out to make a million bux one way or the other. This frenzied promotional activity for the past 7 years or so will become quite interesting when we consider "Christian Bailey," (coming up) so keep it in mind.This makes sense to me. If you are a government wanting to keep track of "dissent" and "thinking outside the box", what better way than to create a free forum for people inclined to such things to communicate? You could set up all kinds of nifty analysis packages on the server to generate reports on who knows what, plus the agents themselves could (ever so subtley) "discourage" discussion which might threaten to reveal information contrary to the government's interests. The article then continues on to discuss some speculatory links between ATS and US propaganda agents involved in Iraq psy-ops.
I would also suggest that the reader go to the webarchive and go back over the history of AboveTopSecret.com and notice that it was quite obviously set up to draw in alternative researchers from the very beginning. Why? Obvious answer is to vector ideas.
So is this the real truth behind ATS? I'll leave that to the reader to decide, but it seems that LJK isn't the only one with suspicions.
How deep does the rabbit-hole go?